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Poster: dogsinapile! Date: Sep 7, 2007 4:04pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Re Rhino>>>>>Who has put their money where their mouth is.??

Through the years I have bought several commercial releases - both studio and live, but I by no means do I have everything they have ever put out. I still buy the occasional Dick's Picks that I don't have and am always on the lookout for new releases. I did buy "Live at the Cow Palace" and "Three From The Vault".
That being said, I am of the opinion that stuff that is released commercially should be purchased, not traded around. I was a big tape collector back in the day and even became a taper myself. (Still have those 2000 or so cassettes and DATS). That background made me appreciate the opportunity to be able to tape shows - Grateful Dead or otherwise. So I do not agree with copying commercial releases of any band. Most probably don't agree with me, but that is how I approach it.

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Poster: JamminJerome Date: Sep 7, 2007 5:13pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Re Rhino>>>>>Who has put their money where their mouth is.??

I think most people think like you about the commercially released stuff. I mean, hey, we've got so much free stuff available to us, why seek out the released stuff for free?

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Poster: dogsinapile! Date: Sep 7, 2007 5:25pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Re Rhino>>>>>Who has put their money where their mouth is.??

It is nice to hear that someone agrees. I just don't feel right copying a commercially released CD. It feels like stealing. All the other stuff is fair game though.
But here is something interesting... Whenever I have taped an artist that is opposed to taping, I don't feel bad about it. I guess I justify it by knowing that I will never make anything off of it...

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Poster: aaron54de Date: Mar 14, 2008 11:09am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Re Rhino>>>>>Who has put their money where their mouth is.??

I actually agree with you completely. Released albums should not be passed around. They should be purchased and savored, inside and out--music and packaging.

Most of us have refurbished our record collections, purchasing the same album numerous times over our lives. Now, I don't have a problem with that at all. New technology has made it exciting enough to go through that financially cumbersome transformation.

What I did have a problem with is CD's costing more than cassettes, when we knew the production costs were much less. And I have a severe problem with iTunes and other downloads costing even more than a CD might, when we all know the production cost of that is nil and the packaging is non-existent (not to mention the DRM involved). I also have a problem with record companies suing grandmothers and toddlers, college kids and parents for simply trying to get as much as they can of what the companies are pushing.

Music is worth as much an artist can get for it. But the middlemen have always taken advantage of us--the consumer AND the artist--and distorted the value of musical worth. I'd freely give half my salary each year to the musical, literary and theater artists that inspire me and help get me through each day.

Now that Rhino has pretty much alienated the fanbase and destroyed the values of the most unique rock n roll band in history, I'll probably never give a cent to a record company ever again. Let the bands represent themselves, and they'll get whatever they want from me.

So...while I still can, I'm going to download whatever I can, officially released or not, because I'm an opportunistic mutha f&*#er and I'm personally tired of being taken advantage of. I would suggest you all buck the current system and do the same.

Check this out, though the concept talked about seems to have finally fallen:
http://www.strategy-business.com/press/16635507/9095